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yeah it was all grown up now who was a

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pupil at the school when this incident

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occurred so he's gonna come across

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enough right somebody who followed this

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case of the last 40 years might realize

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identify me from having given numerous

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interviews over the years despite these

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interviews I've never actually done any

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public speaking on on the subject so I

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hope you really with you know if I start

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bothering you just but just start

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throwing things and like the sentient

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protection that I've grown up right 4th

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of February 1977 anybody was in the area

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yesterday will appreciate the weather

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that we had on that particular day it

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was abysmal never being one who's been a

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great lover of being common wet I wasn't

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particularly I wasn't out that day with

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the rest of the children while they were

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playing football I much preferred to

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stay in the classroom begin doing my own

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work throughout the day the children

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would be coming in from the playground

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during break times and reported that

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they'd seen something strange in thee in

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the playing field surrounding the school

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I've always been a natural-born skeptic

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I don't do belief systems or believe in

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things

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I don't know Syd was that and one thing

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that I was pretty sure of at the time

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was that flying saucers didn't exist at

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long fascination with science fiction

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however the sorts of science fiction

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that deals with humanity's place in the

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future etc nothing to do with spaceships

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coming from Mars and if they did nothing

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told like that so being the natural-born

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skeptic that I was at the end of the day

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I decided that I was going to debunk

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this once and for all talking nonsense

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so at the end of the day when the final

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bell went I walked to the top the

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playing field

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which you'll see when you go over there

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later and there was absolutely nothing

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in sight it was drizzling like mad wind

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horrible but despite this and despite

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the fact that it was a bit of a quagmire

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I thought I wasn't going to get this

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debunked properly unless I actually got

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to the location where the children said

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they'd seen something so despite it

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being a little bit against the school

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rules I thought I'd make my way over the

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fence of the perimeter of the school and

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across a small stream well I've only

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managed to get my leg over when I was

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suddenly drawn to a large object which

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appeared from behind a group of trees

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which is still there about 45 feet long

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silver an expression I didn't use at the

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time because it wasn't in my vocabulary

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but the silvery the silver finish had a

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pearlescent sort of feel to it it was

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almost difficult to focus on but a sort

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of mother of her mother

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in a central dome that covered the top

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the middle third of me the vehicle and a

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red eye sculpted at the time as a

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flashing light now again another word

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that wasn't in my vocabulary at the same

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time and I'll correct that I would say

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it was pulsating more than more than

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flashy and rather than flash like you

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see on an emergency vehicle it was more

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sort of a very slow perhaps one one

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flash per second pulsation I honestly

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couldn't believe what I saw on the

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sighting only laxity from the matter of

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about ten seconds at the very most and

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the object virtually motionless but it

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appeared to be given a slight tug in

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motion away from the trees and then went

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behind the train trees again now for

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some reason my natural curiosity did let

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me point out that this time there's no

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fear at all in the sight in it was pure

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amazement at this ability to make but

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one thing I've never been able to

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explain since and it's brought to me

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it's more important than the actual

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sight in itself - I mean five to ten

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seconds of sight in it's memorable but

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there's also a psychological aspect as

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well because I found myself running away

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from where I've seen it as I said

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there's no fear at all and to this day I

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can't explain why I felt the urge to run

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away but I the speed at which I moved it

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was almost as if my life depended on it

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and I keep thinking about this time and

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time again on that

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yes and the other thing I can think of

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is that some sort of suggestion was put

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there that I had to get away anyway I

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got in the taxi that we had to take some

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from school and got home my mother

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realized I was very agitated I think I

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think she described described it more as

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frightened but it wasn't it wasn't

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frightened it was literally actually

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tainted with what I'd say and the fact

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that I had my world turned up on it on

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it on end

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because to me these things didn't exist

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you know Michael Jones pin being

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mentioned in the talk Brandon Jones pew

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had recently retired as a local vet for

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the area and living on a farm we knew it

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very well or at least my mother did so

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she got in touch with him knowing of the

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interest that that he had in UFOs so

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Brandon appeared quite quickly and later

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on that night we came back down to the

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school probably about 6 or 7 o'clock in

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the evening but by that time it was

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totally impossible to get to where we'd

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seen it it was a quagmire and the lights

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had gone completely so we came down the

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following morning with a reporter from

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the Western Telegraph board Hugh

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Turnbull and managed to get to the spot

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where were the object had appeared there

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was no evidence that any other vehicle

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had been involved a life said the area

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was an absolute quagmire and subsequent

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investigations with Welsh water

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oh well no sewage treatment works just

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further up the up the hill and the local

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farmers revealed that no vehicles

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but being in the in that area on the day

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or from any time previous to that day so

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a little bit a little bit of further

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investigation revealed but near the site

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the only physical evidence which could

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be taken that it was something to what

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we had seen was there's a recently

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erected and repaired telegraph pole the

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cross-section which had been put up

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dated only a few days earlier had been

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not to an angle like that from there it

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just went crazy the school erupted into

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a media circus the the likes of which

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had no children probably never seen it's

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it's it the headmaster had certainly

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never seen anything like it because of

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he got to the point in the Empire he

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left the phone off the hook and decided

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to put an end to this once and for all

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but in that time we'd attracted media

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attention all around the world they were

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even rumors of going over to the space

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to film a documentary which of course

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never transpired and 40 years on over

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over the last 40 years I've always been

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referred to as the boy that saw the

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spaceship I have never at any time in

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the last 40 days not there not that ever

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claim the Russell relation

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I saw the UFO it was a flying object it

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was unidentified that symbols that if

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there is a terrestrial terrestrial

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explanation for this

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I'm quite willing to accept that but

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after 40 years of research and thousands

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of pounds spent on literature various

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other work I am still none the wiser to

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what we saw I can go into the into the

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little details of how the theories of

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how these craft powered how they fly but

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with regards to the origin of these

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craft nobody knows and so I don't want

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to sensational life things at all and I

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never have sensation wise you probably

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you've probably seen the reports that

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the children made at the time now

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there's been a few comments that the

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pictures weren't all identical in all

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but you have to accept as well the

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children are notoriously unreliable

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witnesses if you if the children words

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with if childhood and with a small child

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were to witness a crime a simple robbery

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by the time the police get to invest to

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interview them afterwards you love the

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robbers in strike jumpers wearing masks

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and carrying guns so they're them

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certainly possibly combined with or

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artistic talent they was also certainly

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an element of understandable juvenile

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elaboration of something in canvas I'll

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lenity look to to work out of yourselves

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with and that might have occurred but

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what you have to remember is don't look

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at the differences between the pictures

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look at the similarities given the fact

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that 14 children were all put into exam

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situations with no chance of

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collaborating on a story or an or on a

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description whatsoever we have the

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weekend since the sighting before the

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Monday when we did

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we made these pictures and descriptions

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but this was a time when there's no sky

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there was no Facebook mobile phones

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hadn't come along and if you wanted to

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help use the house phone then you have

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talent Danny good reason to be

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appearance and even then they would year

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rigging on what you say to your friends

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so after we did the doctor the pictures

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and the descriptions the headmaster at

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school Ralph Whelan a lovely very very

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strength no-nonsense man I suppose if

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you if you know picture a Victorian

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teacher or a victorian headmaster ruff

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Llewellyn would fit the bill perfectly

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quite stressful fantastic warm sense of

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humor as well now he had been sketched

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or all along but the moment that he saw

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the pictures and read the descriptions

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his attitude change he never accepted

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that what we saw was a UFO because he

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didn't want to but he did accept that

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the children had seen something out of

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the ordinary that they couldn't explain

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the other thing were supposed to accept

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is that a lot of suggestions have been

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made as I said about tankers whilst

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water tankers agricultural equipment

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most of the children who attended school

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and brought Nathan came from

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agricultural backgrounds myself included

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any piece of agricultural equipment

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silage equipment tankers we'd have

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recognised like a short there there was

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no there's no possibility that it could

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have been anything like that at all

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also the fact that sewage thank yous

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don't tend to oliveira fifty feet off

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the ground the other suggestion was that

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it might possibly have been a helicopter

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or I think I've heard a career jump jet

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engine in recent days as well well the

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science the noise that the helicopter

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and anna-marie junk jet obviously makes

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when taking off a lander

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we had bra D on the doorstep and the

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school had a very good relationship with

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braudy itself in fact I think two sets

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of encyclopedias that we hand in in the

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school the Encyclopedia Britannica which

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was donated by the RAF brought in and we

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also had a full set of encyclopedia

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Americana which was donated from the US

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Naval facility so we had a close

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relationship with the base and all the

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children we were so familiar with

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practically every NATO aircraft in

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muscari we were so used to fortune

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bombers flying overhead lightnings

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effort every type of military hardware

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that you could imagine that we we

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couldn't name it immediately

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Peter pageant broke the Welsh triads or

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actually spent States in his book that

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he arrived with a little bit of

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skepticism in his mind on whether we

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identified it properly however when he

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arrived he had a very very nice sports

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car not so it's got another common one

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and the fact that we identified it

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immediately as a lotus here over any

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they didn't think these kids and what

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they what they say the local community

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have been very supportive I will say

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that there's a lot of skepticism in the

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area and they're and they're possibly

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stir they're possibly still is and it's

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not helped in recent times by the amount

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of nonsense that's on the internet about

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the UFO subject so and the moment people

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think of the word UFO instantly they

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think alien which isn't what is about it

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could have been an alien I don't know I

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honestly can't give you any further

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information this day on that subject no

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I never stop waffling no because I've

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actually reached pretty much pointing

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what I wanted to explain so if if and

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then or anybody else for that I'll leave

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it some Q&A session but but that's my

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account as far as far as I can tell you

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and like I said I'm not used to public

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speaking so like oh we don't mind much

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done crack II don't know so I've learned

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pass the mic back and hopefully if you

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have got any questions that I haven't

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covered then I'll be quite happy to

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